Power on a Rally

Many of our Rally’s are held on sites with an Electric Hook-up (EHU).  Some are not, often called ’Off Grid’.  On some Rallies you have a choice.

One of the questions we are asked most is how do you get on without a ‘hook up’. The answer is just fine, as long as you have prepared and are careful.

Your Bailey caravan or motor home is designed to function perfectly without mains power.  The heating, fridge and lighting will work just fine working on gas and the leisure battery. Indeed the heating and fridge are sometimes more efficient on Gas.

Items that only work from the 240v Mains are the microwave, the 3 pin sockets and your battery charger. Everything else, Heating pump/fan, lights, water pump etc. work off 12v. i.e. your leisure battery. As your battery is not being charged when you are not on EHU how do I go on? Your battery is a reservoir of power.  It is continually charged when on EHU. For those vehicles fitted with a solar panel/s these charge the battery by an amount dependent on the amount and duration of the sunlight falling on them.

Going off grid is dependent on the reserve in your battery.  How long that lasts is dependent on three things.  How good a battery, how much power you use and how much power you are harvesting from your solar.  Some people advocate using a generator and this will be successful.  However their use is subject to time and nuisance restrictions and a good one will set you back £600 to £1000.  A not insignificant investment and the running costs can be higher than you might think.

So you are going to need a reservoir full of power I.e. a battery.

Lead Acid batteries have been around for over 100 years.  As a consequence they are known technology and cheap. You can buy a good quality 100 - 120amp battery for less than £150.

Dependent on type, you can pay more for AGM or GELL lead acid batteries. The AGM battery (Absorbent Glass Mat) is becoming quite popular as it stands more charging/discharging than a simple one. It also is truly sealed i.e. does not need topping up.

There are also the latest technology Lithium Batteries see separate section below.

Some members double up and carry two batteries giving them over 200 amps of potential power.

All this power is not black and white.  Lead acid batteries will only deliver about 50 - 60% of their power in a usable format of power suitable for a Caravan or Motorhome and need charging if they are not to suffer a shortened life span. 

So to return to the question how long will it last?  In our experience a good, charged lead acid battery will last 3-5 days provided you do not use higher powered devices such as TVs or Inverters. 

To go for longer additional power input (Solar for example) is necessary.  Solar is dependent on the power of light falling on the panel and for how long.  This can vary dramatically on a fine summers day a 100w panel will recharge your battery easily.  On a wet day, you may not harvest anything.  Adding more solar to the roof is a comparatively simple thing to do, as is changing the solar controller to a more effective type.  Both of these things will enable you to harvest more solar power.  See Members article on Solar Power charger/controllers.

On the club web site you will find links to battery suppliers including Lithium

The great thing about a rally is that we have been at this for decades and you will have the support of very experienced members.

A List of typical power consumption is as follows, these figures are very approximate 

19in T.V.                                     2-3 amps per hour.

Led spot lights                            0.3 amps per hour

Blown air heating                        1 - 6 amps per hour

Alde heating                               0.5 amps per hour.

Water pumps vary                      2 - 5 amps per hour

Caravan Mover                           30 - 40 amps

Quad mover                                50 - 80 amps.

 

 

Lithium Batteries

Some of our members are changing to the new lithium LiPo4 batteries.  These are half the weight of Lead Acid Batteries and provide almost twice the quantity of power.  i.e a 100amp LiPo4 battery will give you nearly as much power as 2 * 100amp lead acid batteries and weigh in about ¼ of their combined weight.  They can be recharged many 1000s of times.  So yes they are more expensive but long term costs are cheaper.  A good Lithium Battery can now be had for approx £500/£600 Not only do they last many years, they also respond by charging faster, be it by mains or solar.  They are fare better for the environment, do not contain acid and very, very safe.

Your charger in your van will handle a lithium battery just fine, so will a fitted solar panel and controller. Going lithium used to be far more expensive and complicated.  Perhaps the most important thing is you must not charge them if they are below 0 deg centigrade, you can use them to power your van way below this but can damage them if they are too cold when charging.   Remember if you are on EHU it is easy to cut off the charging in very cold weather.  But if your van is in storage for example and fitted with Solar Panels then the protection is a must.

Part of a Lithium battery is a mini computer hidden in the case to control charging etc.  Called a B.M.S. this makes them a straight drop in replacement for a conventional lead acid battery. Many now have a BMS that automatic ally cut out charging below 0 deg to protect the battery, some have built in heaters as well so they can be charged in Arctic conditions. So make sure your purchase has this protection. 

Those of you with Motor homes can buy a box of electronics called a ‘Battery to Battery’ charger.  This will enable the alternator on the engine to charge a lithium battery very quickly when the engine is running.  Nice to have but not essential.

 
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